CCAC Meeting December 17, 2014


The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, December 17, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 

Click here for PDF (printable) version of the agenda.


1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes (Click here for draft November 19, 2014 meeting minutes.)

3. Project Updates/Information:

  • Questions for Milestone Partners about current state of downtown development – Frank Stoner 
    CLICK here for Milestone Partner's response to the CCAC's July 16 resolution concerning Barnes Lumber
  • Update and questions about wind energy business – Rich Pleasants
  • Crozet Artisans need to secure a new location in Crozet – Kathleen 
  • Downtown Zoning Form Presentation – Tom Loach
  • Clarification of Mission Statement – Bill Schrader  (Click here for CCAC Guidelines)
  • Information sharing about meeting with County staff regarding 
economic development and how CCAC can promote/ advocate for 
businesses, new and existing.
  • Discussion about various topics of focus that members would like to 
take on as an area of focus.
  • Dentist presenting to group about idea for the Moose Lodge.

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.

CCA Meeting Agenda, December 11, 2014

Crozet Community Meeting
Tentative Agenda
December 11, 2014
7:30 PM at the Field School

(Click here for PDF version of the agenda)

Agenda Review / Changes and additions from the floor.
Approval of the CCA’s last meeting's minutes (September 11, 2014) (Click here for draft of September 11 minutes)
Treasurer's Report by Emery Taylor  ($10 family contribution for 2014 now payable)

Drop-in visit from Albemarle County Police officers (Evening Patrol Division) As part of the Albemarle County Police department community policing.

Presentations:  Clann Mhor and the Blue Ridge Tunnel Restoration.  By Dan Burke and Kevin Donleavy along with Bob Dombrowe

Updates and News from Ann Mallek, our county supervisor.

Old Business:

  • Updates from the Crozet Park (Kim Guenther, Crozet Park President)
  • Update on the Build Crozet Library fundraising (  (Bill Schrader, Build Crozet Library chairman)
  • Update on Barnes Lumber re-development proposal by Frank Stoner/Milestone Partners?
  • RECOVERED:  The ACPD recovered the "Welcome to Crozet" sign that was stolen from near RWSA treatment plant on Rte 240 (Three Notch'd Road) (thank you!) However, not before we had already replaced it. 
  • Motion was made by Jo Ann Perkins and seconded by Mike Marshall at our last meeting to reimburse me $375 for purchase of magnetic Crozet emblems (as invoiced).  Per our bylaws, it was tabled.  Is there a motion to resume consideration?
  • Revision of bylaws regarding voting on motions.  Here are the proposed revisions to the bylaws as discussed at our last meeting.  (Current wording is available by clicking here.  Thanks and acknowledgement to Jim Crosby for his assistance with the wording of these articles.)
    • Article VI: Amendments to the Articles of Incorporation or these Bylaws may be proposed at any scheduled CCA meeting.  Upon majority vote of approval, such proposed amendment must be placed on the agenda of the next regularly scheduled CCA meeting for a final majority vote for adoption.  Such adoption shall become effective at the subsequent scheduled meeting following adoption.
    • Article VII: Motions made at a scheduled meeting in the conduct of the general business shall be voted upon and moved for adoption by a majority vote of those present. Motions on new matters or topics of general community interest or impact made at a scheduled meeting may be presented at any scheduled CCA meeting.  Upon majority vote of approval, such proposed amendment must be placed on the agenda of the next scheduled CCA meeting for a final majority vote for adoption. The context of the motion will be communicated in the meeting minutes of the meeting in which it is presented and noted as being presented for vote of adoption at the next subsequent meeting. 
    • New Article VIII:  A quorum of 10 percent of the members who are current in their dues shall be required to conduct business at any meeting of the CCA.
    • New Article IX:  Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised shall govern the CCA conduct of meetings where they are not inconsistent with these Bylaws.
    • To be clear in the use of our language – there is a distinction being made here between approval and adoption of a motion.  As discussed at our September meeting:
      • motions regarding the general business of the CCA (e.g., Good Neighbor Awards, Crozet Emblem stickers purchase) made be approved and adopted at the same meeting in which they are made. 
      • Motions to amend the bylaws or regarding larger community issues, (e.g,. to support the Crozet Master Plan) may be approved at one meeting, but then must wait for a vote to adopt at the next scheduled CCA meeting.  So such a motion, after the first meeting may be said to be "approved, but not yet adopted".

New Business:

  • Election of CCA officers occurs at our next meeting, January 8, 2015.  Nominations are open for President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer.   Current officers are: President: Tim Tolson, Vice-President: Lisa Goehler, Secretary: Jo Ann Perkins, and Treasurer: Emery Taylor.  Candidates must be present at the January 8 meeting or have spoken with a current officer about their willingness to serve if elected.
  • Revision of Article II concerning when elections are held.  Currently the second sentence says: Majority approval by attendees at the final meeting of the calendar year will constitute election.  However, our practice for many years has been to hold elections on the first meeting of the year. 
    •  Suggest it be revised (bolded italics indicates revision, otherwise it as currently worded) to say:  Article II: Officers will be elected for a one-year term, commencing on the first meeting of the calendar year immediately following their election. Positions will consist of President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. Candidates must be present at the election or have spoken with a current officer about their willingness to serve if elected. Majority approval by attendees at the first meeting of the calendar year will constitute election.  Duties of the officers shall be as implied by their titles. All officers shall be responsible for keeping accurate records.
  • Other items? 

Comments and Questions?

Announcements –

  • Crozet Community Advisory Council meeting is next Wednesday, December 17 at 7:00 PM at  the Crozet Library. NOTE the new day of the week (Third Wednesday) and location (Crozet Library). Everyone is encouraged to attend.
  • Join the Crozet Trails Crew (CTC) this Saturday, Dec. 13 starting at 9:30 AM, at the lower Westhall trail (go straight into Westhall, past Summerdean on your left, until you see the big dirt pile and a road stub on your left. That's the top of the trail.). CTC will bring tools, but wear sturdy shoes and work gloves.
  • Others?

Future Agenda Items?

The next CCA meeting is January 8, 2015 at 7:30 PM at the Field School Auditorium

CCA meetings are at 7:30 PM on the second Thursday of the odd numbered months (except July).
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Clann Mhór and the Blue Ridge Tunnel Restoration

Clann Mhor and the Blue Ridge Tunnel Restoration
Thursday, December 11 at 7:30 PM
at the Field School, 1408 Crozet Avenue

The Crozet Community Association meeting will begin with a special presentation, entitled Clann Mhor and the Blue Ridge Tunnel Restoration. by Clann Mhór Dan Burke and Kevin Donleavy along with Bob Dombrowe, about the Crozet Tunnel, the people who build it in the 1850's and its current restoration.

Blue Ridge Tunnel Foundation logoThe implementation phase is now underway for Phase I of the Blue Ridge Tunnel Project. Nelson County officials have selected and awarded the contract for Phase I of the rehabilitation and trail project to Fielder’s Choice Enterprises, Inc. of Charlottesville, Virginia.  Work began October, 2014 and is scheduled to be completed by February 2015.

Clann Mhór is a small non-profit, tax exempt 501.c.3 research organization that is studying the history of the Blue Ridge Railroad in Central Virginia. During the 18Clann Mhor logo 50's this seventeen-mile section of the railroad was built under the direction of Claudius Crozet, a brilliant French engineer, who took on the challenge of getting the railroad over the Blue Ridge Mountains. The contractors for this work hired hundreds of Irish immigrants and rented slaves to do this difficult work.  Clann Mhór – which in Gaelic means the Great Family – wishes to honor the history of these forgotten railroad workers.

Full Disclosure: This presentation is part of our usual Crozet Community Association meeting.  All are welcome, even encouraged, to attend.  Our meeting agenda is available by clicking here.

Pies from Mountainside

Pies for Thanksgiving!

If you haven't heard, Chef Meredith and Pastry Chef Valat at Mountainside Senior Living in Crozet have been busy whipping up some of Val's famous desserts.  This is your chance to see what all the buzz is about…

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Crozet Avenue Streetscape Completion Celebration

Crozet Avenue Streetscape Completion Celebration!

Albemarle County cordially invites you to join County Supervisor Ann Mallek and County Executive Tom Foley along with project team members in celebrating the completion of the Crozet Streetscape Project.

Now that the Crozet Streetscape project is completed, residents and visitors will enjoy the visually enhanced entryway and main thoroughfare, as well as improved pedestrian connectivity within downtown Crozet. Business owners will enjoy increased vitality, as people can easily walk between shops. The streetscape balances the needs of pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists.

Please come help us celebrate this exciting achievement!

DATE: Thursday, November 20, 2014
TIME: 12:00 pm
LOCATION: Gather at the Mudhouse, 5793 The Square, Crozet
12:15  – Walking tour
12:30 – Program commences in front of new Crozet Library.

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CCAC Meeting November 19, 2014


The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, November 19, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
NOTE the new day and location!


1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes

3. Project Updates/Information:

  • Introduce Emily Kilroy and new CCAC members
  • Streetscape updates/issues and celebration, safe walks to school, Harris Teeter Crossing
  • Update on Barnes lumber closing – Frank Stoner
  • Discussion of CDC presentation and brainstorm development issues 
and ideas per email I sent earlier from Dave Stoner
  • Wind energy business update and overview – Rich Pleasants

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.


Dave Stoner Letter
Email – November  2014

Meg -
As discussed, I wanted to suggest several agenda items for discussion at the next, or next several, CCAC meetings:
    1.    Crozet Vision - I think we should work to create a specific, written vision for what we want Crozet to become.  This could answer questions like what specific kinds of businesses do we want to grow, what are key aspects we want in any redevelopment, what DON'T we want or think is not realistic in any redevelopment, etc.  I know some of this is covered in the Master Plan, but much isn't.  I view the Master Plan as more rules or guidelines for development – not defining what we actually want that development to be.
    2.    Development Study – I think we should find the funds and scope out what I am calling a Development Study - to help determine whether that vision is realistic, or if not, what are the specific impediments to achieving it, what can be done to overcome them, and what do we need to do to implement that vision.  This might answer questions like:  How much commercial space is really needed?  What does the county need to do to attract the kinds of businesses we want (tax breaks, infrastructure funding, other incentives, etc)?  How do we do that and still be fair to/support existing businesses?  What are the economics of the overall Barnes redevelopment?  Given those economics, what kinds and numbers of businesses can we realistically attract?   What level of public $ support is needed to make it happen (to help answer questions like proffers and where should the roads, RR underpass, parking etc fit in terms of future County funding)?  What are the specific pros/cons of relaxing the first floor restriction on residential and/or allowing single family?  I think if we could find $25-75k (County funds, grants, or developers) there's lots of productive work a development consultant could do or help us with here.  The results of this might help justify further infrastructure funding from, or creation of incentives by the County, and bridge some of the gaps in thinking between Milestone and CCAC.
    3.    Economic Development Effort – Crozet could benefit from a more proactive economic development effort, vs. what we have now – which I am not sure what that is.  Things like:  actively recruiting businesses we want;  creating marketing materials for Crozet; working to win businesses vs them going to rte 250 or Old Trail or elsewhere;  pushing the County to create real incentives, etc.  Not a "we want any development approach" but one that seeks to implement some of the things identified in our Vision or by the Development Study.
    4.    Master Plan Update – I am thinking the Master Plan will be up for review next year, yes?  What changes if any are needed and how will that get done?
    5.    Implementation Plan - Work toward rolling all of the above together into a proactive implementation plan for creating what we have envisioned.  Again, I view the Master Plan as the template and guidelines.  This implementation plan would be more of a plan to guide our/the County's/the developers efforts, to make what we want to happen – actually happen.
    6.    Organization – This follows on to your efforts at considering a Community Development Corporation as a potential vehicle for our efforts.  Is having a private developer develop, and the County and CCAC react to that, the best way to make things happen here?  Is a CDC or other public-private partnerships a more effective means of achieving what we want?  If so, should the CCAC assume that role, or be responsible for managing that or another entity?
I know there's a lot here, and all of the above tends to being a bit more pro-active and involved approach than maybe the CCAC has taken in the past – I'm not sure.  Are CCAC members desiring/willing to tackle some of these and take this approach?  I also recognize the County and County staff's role in all of this…I am not suggesting CCAC goes it alone and doesn't use the County resources available.  Maybe instead just a way to holler a bit louder to get more of those resources devoted to us (or go find our own) since we are a designated growth area and a pretty special one at that.

I know Milestone wanted to give an update at our next meeting, and wasn't sure what you had in mind as a specific agenda.  But I would be happy to prepare further information as needed to lead a discussion on any/all of the above.  Let's touch base on this prior to our meeting in 2 weeks.

David A. Stoner
Stoner Power Consulting, LLC
6858 Rockfish Gap Turnpike
Greenwood, VA 22943

Ann Mallek’s Town Hall meetings.

Ann Mallek's Town Hall meetings in November.

Our county supervisor, Ann Mallek has scheduled a series of town hall meetings in November on the county’s five-year plan, its process and other topics of interest.  The plan combines schools, general government and capital improvements into a financial plan and framework used for annual county budgets.

The preliminary five-year financial plan currently projects an $8.1 million gap between projected revenues and identified "catching up" and "keeping up" expenditures for local government and schools for the next fiscal year. That gap that would increase to a $26 million gap by fiscal year 2020. Supervisors are conducting town hall meetings during November and early December to get public feedback about strategies for filling the projected gap, which could range from eliminating services and scaling back expectations to adjusting the tax rate or considering special tax districts.

The meetings date, time, and locations are:

  • Tuesday, November 18 from 7:00  to 9:00 PM at Henley Middle School with Supervisor Liz Palmer;
  • Thursday, November 20 from 7:00  to 9:00 PM at Broadus Wood Elementary School with Supervisor Brad Sheffield;
  • Saturday, November 22, from 10 AM to noon at the White Hall Community Center.

Plan to attend one of these meetings to hear about the plan and provide your feedback and thoughts.

November 13 CCA meeting postponed to December 11, 2014

Crozet Community Association (CCA)
on Thursday, November 13 is postponed.

We're  postponing our regular meeting on the second Thursday of odd-numbered months that would have happened this Thursday, Nov. 13 at 7:30 PM.  The next CCA meeting will be Thursday, December 11th at 7:30PM at the Field School.

We're postponing because most of our presenters are planning to attend the Crozet Library Soirée on Thursday, November 13 at 7PM (and so are we!).

CCA meetings are at 7:30 PM on the second Thursday of the odd numbered months (except July).
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Crozet Library Soirée

Come hear about Crozet's namesake, Claudius Crozet, Thursday, November 13 at 7:00 PM at the Crozet Library.

Col. Dooley will review Claudius Crozet's life and career, with special emphasis on his work at the United States Military Academy at West Point and his role in founding the Virginia Military Institute. Col. Dooley is the co-author of "Claudius Crozet: French Engineer in America, 1790-1864"

One of the series of talks, dubbed the Crozet Soirée, at the Crozet Library.  It is free and everyone is invited to attend.

Additional information on the Crozet Library's website at:

Crozet Community Orchestra Fall Concert

Crozet Community Orchestra Fall Concert, Sunday, November 16 from 6:00 to 7:30 PM
at the Crozet Baptist Church,  5804 St George Ave, Crozet. 

This is a free concert performed by local musicians.

The Fall Concert will feature a Suite from Georges Bizet’s opera “Carmen”, a Suite of English Folk Songs arranged by Ralph Vaughn Williams, and a Fantasia on “Greensleeves”, also by Vaughn Williams.  For a special treat we will be joined by harpist Virginia Schweninger.

All are welcome!

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